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Dogo Canario Club
of America

Pennsylvania Hip
Improvement Project
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Myths
Color Controversy
These are colors and patterns that NEVER existed in the Presa
Canario, but are signs of recent crossbreeding.

 
These are colors that do exist in the Presa Canario/Dogo
Canario.
Somewhere along the way, the crusade against TOO MUCH white, twisted into the
belief that ANY white was not allowed. That is NOT TRUE. White
markings are allowed, but are preferred to be kept minimal and confinde to
certain areas...the chest, feet/legs and occasionally in small quantities the
head, although the dog should have a black mask that totally surrounds the nose,
mouth and length of the muzzle, as well as the eyes. The dog in the fourth
picture on the top, despite having a correct black nose, has incorrect white
markings, and should have been rendered unbreedable
 
Then there is black.
Black was originally accepted during the recovery process, but as the
selective breeding continued it was dropped because black dogs usually carried
other major faults. they could not seem to produce a black dog that exhibited
good breed type, so it was removed as a permissible color from the standard. The
theory is that the color is linked to other genetic impurities. It is accepted
in the USA by the UKC standard, but their still aren't many dogs taking
advantage of it. Beware when someone tries to sell you the "rare" black
dog.
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Breed or Bandog?
This controversy has raged since the Presa Canario first came into the US in the
early 1990's. Many early specimens that were purported to be Presas came in a
variety of colors and patterns. You had everything from light fawns to dark
brindles, blues, almost all whites, and patterns that made the dogs look like
various crosses and mixes. People who bred and perpetuated these types, colors
and patterns of the dogs will tell you a tale of early crossing in the Islands,
to "recreate" the nearly extinct presa. They will tell you how the original "perros
de presa" were mixed with pit bulls, bulldogs, neopolitan masitffs, bullterriers
and various other molossoid and bulldog breeds, and that this has led to the
early dogs in the USA looking as they did. There are also breeders who simply
claim to breed "old-world bloodlines", to circument the question of why their
dogs look different then a CH Spainsh Dogo Canario. However, as the breed has
grown in popularity in the US, and a greater relationship between the Club
Espanol del Dogo Canario (CEDC, Spanish parent club of the breed) and the DCCA
has been established, we have more access to early documentations and more
information of the near extinction and recovery process.
While the original recovery did begin with a multitude of dogs that probably
were made up of crossing, the CEDC, with the approval of the Real Sociedad
Canina Espanol (RSCE, Basically the Spanish AKC) began selectively breeding the
dogs who matched the physical type and characteristics of the traditional dog.
Using information gathered from various interviews and research, they began
weeding out dogs of undesirable type and characteristics, and over the next
decade arrived at a breed that was breeding true to form, with each generation
improving upon the last. Upon recognition of the Presa Canario by the Federacion
Cynotique International (FCI) in 2001 it's status as a breed was established and
its standard set. The FCI also requested the name be changed to Dogo Canario.
We believe that many early US breeders were sold dogs of poor quality, basically
cast offs of breeders as they were selectively breeding towards the Dogo Canario
of today. Unfortunately, many of these breeders simply took these dogs, created
their own standards, and bred them and interbred them to their own concepts,
until they had almost established their own breed. Original dogs were bought and
bred with no thought to continue with the refinement that was going on in the
Islands. By the time the DCCA was established in 1997, as a club of fanciers
with more correct imports, the differences between the two versions of dogs were
obvious.
Most US dogs were taller, heavier, including many "rare and exotic" colors,
tight skin (like pit bulls), shiny coats, midget dogs with triangular heads,
etc. As more direct imports became visible in the show circuit, in kennels and
on the internet, a division began. Those initial breeders were dedicated to the
dogs they had bred and perpetuated as Presas for over a decade, and not wanting
to look foolish or wrong, they continued to support their original lines and
breeders breeding those lines, while importing the refined imports to revive
their personal lines, and bring then to where they should have been all along.
Meanwhile the Spanish Dogo Canarios and those direct imports here, have been
breeding true for a long time, which is one of the qualifications of being
called a "breed". Many early US descended lines, even with a recent infusion of
Spanish blood, are still producing dogs that exhibit a variety of type,
characteristics and colors, a lot of times within the same litter.
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Beauty vs. Brawn
There is another debate amongst American breeders as to what the Presa should
look like, based on the arguement that haunts every breed- "show" vs. "working".
While many breeds can have both "types" co-existing, in Molossoid breeds it is a
harder existence. In the Presa, it becomes even harder because we are battling
against the representations of crossbreeds as correct dogs, and many of those
breeder use "working type" to excuse their dogs from meeting the basic standard.
There is also the tendency in the US to breed bigger, meaner, more muscular,
bigger headed dogs, which takes our breed away from its correct look.
Breeders who are interested in mainly showing their dogs, do not necessarily own
dogs with poor temperment, or are breeding dogs who wouldn't meet the character
definitions of the standard. Breeder and owners who are interested mainly in
working their dogs do not necessarily own bad examples of type. However, those
breeders who are well versed and compete in both arenas have the advantage over
both single minded groups. While not every dog can go from show arena to winning
a personal protection tournament, the basics of the standard should be met.
Breedings should be based on furthering this concept of blending as well. Many
breeds have already demonstrated that if you concentrate harder on one, while
neglecting the other, you will end up with an incorrect dog in some way.
Confirmation shows demonstrate that a dog has correct type. Working events
demonstrate that a dog has a correct temperment, although which working events
apply to the character of the presa is a matter of debate.
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Presa vs. Dogo
You will notice that we use the names Presa Canario and Dogo Canario
interchangeably throught the site. That is because to us they are the same dog,
the same breed. the Presa Canario is simply now officially referred to as the
Dogo Canario, after the FCI acceptance of the breed. There are those however,
that push for the separation of the two names, as two different breeds. They
want to refer to the Presa Canario as the dogs that were bred down from the
inital heavily flawed lines first imported into America. To owners of these
dogs, calling them "presa canario" somehow denotes that they are dogs of "old
world bloodlines" instead of the dog seen today winning shows in the Canary
Islands, Spain and now the rest of the world. By calling them "Presa Canarios,
not Dogo Canarios" they try to establish the dogs as a separate breed that
predates the Dogo Canario, instead of a group of molossoid dogs bred down, and
heavily inbred, from several different recently crossed lines over the years. On
the other side, the "Dogo Canario" people use this name to separate themselves
from these other dogs, and to denote recently import dogs and Spanish import
bred lines. These dogs can usually be easily traced back to Spain and the
Islands.
Recently, allegations are being made that the "Presa" is healthier, more
athletic, just alll around better then the "Dogo", which are fat, lazy show
dogs. Reality is that the majority of dogs in the OFA and PH databases are "Dogo"
lines; as well as the majority of titled working dogs.
There are variations of type within the breed, whereas some dogs look shorter
and broader, other's are less broad. And of course, examples can be found to
illustrate excessive traits. However, that does not make for two different
breeds.
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Rare = Healthy
This is one of the biggest myths still being perputrated to this day, despite
all we have learned about genetic health defects in the breed. When we imported
our first pair of dogs in 1995, we were told this breed was rare, so it wasn't
overbred, and didn't have any health defects present in AKC breeds that were
prevalent in the US already. Unfortunately, we were naive enough to believe it.
There are several health defects that have shown up in this breed. Some of them
are passed genetically, but some simply show up.
Hip Dysplasia
Epilepsy
Demodetic Mange
Heart murmur
Anterior Cruchiate Ligament tears
Entropian
Hypothyroidism
Cryptorchidism
Panosteoitis
Patellar Luxation
Various Cancers
If a breeder tells you any of these do not occur in the breed, RUN! If a
breeder tells you his lines are exempt from Hip Dysplasia, without him ever
needing to xray his breeding stock, RUN! The treatments for any of these
conditions vary, and your best information will be gained from research and a
consult with your vet. You can find information on these conditions on the
DCCA website on the Health page
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Behavioral
Problems
Obviously every dog can be different, and behavior depends greatly on
socialization and training. However most of the common problems we see in
the breed are the results of a lack of one or both of those things.
Undersocialized dogs can be very feraful, shy or on the other end, aggressive
and too defensive. Lack of basic obedience training leads to a dog with
poor public manners, and one that is out of control. So when you get your new
dog, we STRONGLY URGE you to socialize and train it immediately.
People who are unknowledgeable will argue that socializing your dog, or basic
obedience training will ruin your dogs guarding ability, and it's "spirit".
While it's true that being too heavy handed in the training can be too much for
some dogs, it doesn't have to be that way. Working with a knowledgable
trainer, NOT ONE FROM YOUR LOCAL PETSMART/PETCO, can help you find the right
balance and method for you and your dog. Above all, listen to your
instincts. Training should be fun, not punishment. If you don't feel what
you're doing is right for your dog, find someone else for a second opinion.
If you have children, you should involve them in the training as well.
Having them handle the dog's toys before giving them to him, as well as the
food. NEVER leave your child alone unsupervised with your dog, no matter
how trustworthy you think him to be. Accidents happen, and it is always
better to be safe then sorry. Personally, we would never tolerate a dog that
growls at a child. If it is still young enough, you may be able to work
with him. If it is an adult, we recommend finding the dog a new home.
Once the dog is allowed to get away with dominating a child, we do not feel it
is in anyway to be trusted around a child again. Sure, you can find
storied of rehabilitated dogs who go on to live with children, but you can also
find just as many where the results were tragic, and the initial signs were
ignored.
Generally, the presa is neither an obsessive chewer or a digger. If you
have one you would classify as such past puppyhood, it's probably a sign they
need more excercise and time with you.
As mentioned before, the presa IS dog aggressive, particularly with same sex,
similar breeds. To date, it is rare to find two intact males able to
co-exist peacefully. Females can do it, but it takes the right
combination. We generally do not recommend someone try to be "the
one" to make it happen, because better people then you have already tried...
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